Hiding knowledge is truly a crime

Posted: February 8, 2008 in Atheism, Blogs worth reading, News, Religion
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Any effort to hide or suppress knowledge of any sort is a horrible act, barring truly special circumstances.  To hide knowledge and thus keep society ignorant on nearly any topic is bizarre, idiotic and outright monstrous.  So then, why of all things, do certain religions keep trying to hide out certain pieces of information?

Elsewhere in this blog, I spotlighted an example of  Kenyan bishops trying to hide fossil evidence simply because they think it might lead people away from their church.  As any rational person would say, that is an act of intellectual sabotage and rather immoral at that.

Now it seems there is an online petition for Wikipedia to remove  certain images from their page on the figure known as Mohammed.  Why? Apparently such images are offensive to muslims.

Well.   Tough.

Personally, I find the teachings of dens of ignorance such as the Discovery Institute to be offensive but I do not fancy my chances of them going away just because of that.  Though if I could apply that same reasoning to such things as Britney Spears and Fundamentalists in general, I dare say the world would be a better place.

Oh, the images in question? These:

maome.jpgmohammed_kaaba_1315.jpg

And no, I do not care if anyone finds these images offensive.  They are part of knowledge, they are part of information. To keep one self ignorant is the height of stupidity and foolishness.

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Comments
  1. isaiah30v8 says:

    You are right!

    Moderator: (link removed) Nice try but spam is still spam.

  2. isaiah30v8 says:

    Moderator: (link removed) Nice try but spam is still spam.

    You are hiding knowledge!

    Moderator: Not at all. I deleted an attempt to spam a link which definitely falls under the special circumstances already mentioned. Grow up.

  3. Steve B says:

    Absolutely agree. Using positions of power or authority to limit exposure to certain veiwpoints or types of information is completely reprehensible.

    Regardless of who is doing it.

  4. Scavenger says:

    Only one book for you.
    Werner Keller
    The Bible as History
    Hating the truth is willfuly keeping oneself ignorant.

    Moderator: yes, I’m sure to follow the word of an author who claimed the shroud of Turin was authentic.

  5. isaiah30v8 says:

    You are a self incriminated criminal!

    Face reality!

    Moderator: No, you’re just someone trying to badly apply logic to try to justify spamming his own website, which is never acceptable.

  6. Lister says:

    Both of those images are listed at ‘Zombietime’ as being drawn by Muslims — I haven’t bothered to check their claim, but they link to a pdf article if you want to do so.

  7. shankarwolf says:

    The masses are too ignorant for true knowledge, you have demonstrated this nicely.

  8. Matt says:

    I see. Thank you for that evidence backed and clear statement.

    Really…

  9. Lew Moxon's Ghost says:

    Sounded pretty reasonable to me…. but then what do I know?

  10. peak9 says:

    This post way too hypocritical. “Hiding knowledge is truely a crime?” I cannot agree more, but what “knowledge” are we talking about. That’s right, you don’t consider the knowledge of God to be knowledge at all because, for you, he doesn’t exist.

    By your logic, keeping the knowledge of God or even Mohammed out of schools should be a crime, but you, along with all the other secular hypocrites don’t think so. Christianity is a “viewpoint,” so why limit its exposure? Because you are out to indoctrinate just as much as Christians are out to spread the gospel of Jesus.

  11. Matt says:

    No, it’s not knowledge because there is no empirical evidence for it. While comparative religious classes are fantastic, if each religion is treated objectively in turn, as they make good critical thinking exercises, they can not be treated as being ‘truth’ or ‘fact’ for there is no evidence to support them.

    If you or others wish to spread the word of jesus, islam, google, flying spaghetti monster, chuck norris or optimus prime … feel free to do so. There are plenty of opportunities to do so – in a religious setting such as a church or other similar gathering. However, trying to enforce such beliefs into a secular school setting or secular society as a whole, while trying to pass such a belief off as ‘the one true way’ or ‘truth’ is helping no one at all.

  12. Kari says:

    Hi Matt,

    If you wouldn’t mind, please define empirical evidence for me.

    Sincerely, I notice all the on-going debate which I suppose can be purported as a purposeful way to spend time. It is one way for us to learn from one another.

    Can you simply be objective and read the Bible? Or have you? It seems that to argue a point, for or against, without investigating the source properly is rather unusual in the scientific community.

    Take care, Kari

  13. Matt says:

    I have read the Bible from cover to cover on more than one occasion during my life. I know it reasonably well.

    Empirical evidence. I’m sure you are able to use google as well as anyone else.

  14. Jay says:

    “So then, why of all things, do certain religions keep trying to hide out certain pieces of information?”

    Why do certain pro-abortion groups hide the science from the masses and pregnant women that shows they are carrying a small human individual life rather than an insignificant blob of tissue?

  15. Matt says:

    Care to provide a link to the peer reviewed research papers that clearly show that?

    I’m also wondering what that has to do with the general theme of this entry. Weird.

  16. Jay says:

    Ummm, let me guess… “Hiding Knowledge.”

    The issue is not limited to religion. Science is ignored in lots of areas including abortion.

  17. Matt says:

    A rather simplistic view of biological processes your source has there. And I don’t see any evidence of science hiding any sort of information on what you link to … and still no links to peer reviewed research.

  18. Jay says:

    “And I don’t see any evidence of science hiding any sort of information…”

    Who said anything about science hiding anything? It’s the pro-abortion folks who hide scientific information.

  19. Matt says:

    I see. Then kindly link to the scientific research and papers these people are apparently hiding.

    I have heard of no such thing before and would be interesting to see concrete examples of such.

  20. AV says:

    Why do certain pro-abortion groups hide the science from the masses and pregnant women that shows they are carrying a small human individual life rather than an insignificant blob of tissue?

    Terms like “human individual” carry a lot of theological, philosophical and political baggage, and I’m wondering what science has to do with any of this?

    I’m also interested in how it is possible to establish scientifically what is “significant” and “insignificant” in regards to human life.

  21. Jay says:

    “I’m also interested in how it is possible to establish scientifically what is “significant” and “insignificant” in regards to human life.”

    In your opinion, if something (anything) cannot be verified “scientifically,” does it mean that it is not real or that it does not exist?

  22. AV says:

    In your opinion, if something (anything) cannot be verified “scientifically,” does it mean that it is not real or that it does not exist?

    If we aren’t presented with substantial evidence for a claim, then we are under no obligation to accept it. (Indeed, there would be no reason to accept it.)

    But please don’t avoid the question. You made a specific claim about what has been verified “scientifically” regarding what is “significant” and “insignificant” in regards to human life.

  23. Hi,

    By depicting the final prophet of Islam, Prophet Muhammad (may God’s peace and blessings be upon him), in a way that is not true of him, you hide true knowledge.

    Do consider that the images above are not how the Arabs are or were. Visit Arabia and you won’t find them dressed like this and they never were. Further, neither did Prophet Muhammad look like this – he’s described differently in the sahih hadith (reported tradition) of Islam.

    We as Muslims do not create, distribute or publish any picture of any of our prophets, of Noah, Abraham, Moses or Jesus. We respect them and revere them as true prophets of God. What bears value is their teaching of monotheism.

    Hope this helps!

    Yasser

  24. AV says:

    By depicting the final prophet of Islam, Prophet Muhammad (may God’s peace and blessings be upon him), in a way that is not true of him, you hide true knowledge.

    You only say that because you (unlike the artists or those who appreciate the art) are excessively literalist.

    Do consider that the images above are not how the Arabs are or were. Visit Arabia and you won’t find them dressed like this and they never were.

    Don’t insult our intelligence by implying that we are not aware of that.

    I doubt that first-century Jews looked much like they are depicted in The Last Supper and other Renaissance art.

    We as Muslims do not create, distribute or publish any picture of any of our prophets, of Noah, Abraham, Moses or Jesus. We respect them and revere them as true prophets of God.

    You’re free to do that. Why should everyone else be forced to comply with the dictates of your religion?

    What bears value is their teaching of monotheism.

    What value is there in the teaching of monotheism, especially given the lack of evidence that a single deity, let alone various deities, exist?

  25. Bruce says:

    You’re free to do that. Why should everyone else be forced to comply with the dictates of your religion?

    Admittedly, he wasn’t compelling compliance, just making a criticism of… I’m umming and arrring over a term to describe the quality of the criticism.

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