Comfort & Cameron vs. Rational Thought

Posted: May 1, 2007 in Atheism, Evolution, News, Religion

atheistwarning.jpgIt would seem that Creationists Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron have challenged a couple of Atheists to a verbal debate, claiming that they can scientifically prove the existence of the judeo-christian god without referring to the Bible.

But wait! There’s more!

NEW YORK – A prominent Christian best-selling author is asserting that he can prove the existence of God without using the Bible, and has challenged two atheists to a debate.

Ray Comfort, author of God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists, alongside fellow Christian and actor Kirk Cameron (Growing Pains) will butt heads with two ardent nonbelievers using only scientific fact in a debate sponsored by ABC. Comfort says that the evidence will “absolutely” confirm that there is a God, and he will not speak about his faith.

“Most people equate atheism with intellectualism,” explained Comfort in a statement, “but it’s actually an intellectual embarrassment. I am amazed at how many people think that God’s existence is a matter of faith. It’s not, and I will prove it at the debate – once and for all. This is not a joke. I will present undeniable scientific proof that God exists.”

The debate is in reaction to the “Blasphemy Challenge” that started late in 2006. The two creators of the movement encouraged all people to tape themselves with a short message that will “damn themselves to hell.” Participants must recite the line “I deny the Holy Spirit,” and then upload their video onto YouTube.

Comfort and Cameron felt that these two would be some of the most difficult people to convince that God does indeed exist, so contacted them about having a discussion.

ABC has said that they will film the debate, which will take place on May 5 in New York City, and will stream it live on their website as well as use footage for their program Nightline. Martin Bashir, co-anchor of Nightline, will moderate the event.

Cameron will use the event to also speak out against evolution, which he thinks is not credible and a major contributor to the growth in atheism.

“Evolution is unscientific. In reality, it is a blind faith that’s preached with religious zeal as the gospel truth. I’m embarrassed to admit that I was once a naïve believer in the theory,” said the former television star in a statement. “Atheism has become very popular in universities – where it’s taught that we evolved from animals and that there are no moral absolutes. So we shouldn’t be surprised when there are school shootings.”

Comfort felt impelled to hold the debate, because he is worried about the state of Christianity around the world, especially in Europe. According to a Zukerman study, in Sweden as many as 85 percent of the population are non-believers; Japan has 65 percent; France with 54 percent; and 44 percent of British citizens do not believe in God.

The Christian writer also noted that there is a genuine attack against Christian beliefs, more than other religions.

“[T]here is something more sinister here than a few people not believing in God,” concluded the author. “Why would so many be so bitter against Christianity in particular? Why aren’t they making videos that blaspheme Buddha or Mohammed or Ghandi? We made our own video clip and posted it on www.Hollywoodblasphemy.com to expose why.”

Comfort has spoken at several atheist events, one in which he was a platform speaker at the 2001 convention for the American Atheists, Inc.

 

Now these two, Comfort and Cameron, are pretty infamous for their complete lack of scientific knowledge and use of strawmen and pseudo-science. Perhaps their most idiotic argument was that ‘the banana was the atheist’s nightmare‘ which was was immediately ridiculed and proven to be a moronic statement at best. The argument was part of their Way of the Master evangelical TV program which has also been proven to be so full of mistakes and general idiocy that it’s amazing anyone believes any of it at all – it’s remarkably stupid even by fundamentalist standards.

In short, judging by their past performances, their arguments will undoubtedly boast a number of things:

  • Arguments which have already been shot down before many, many times. This is called the Wall of Ignorance.
  • Strawmen arguments. They set up false premises which they then shoot down, which doesn’t actually prove anything.
  • Pseudo-science. They’ll attempt to make idiotic arguments like the banana thing and try to pass it off as science when, in fact, it’s nothing but gross ignorance on display.

Still, the debate should be good for a laugh. Maybe it should be aired on the Comedy Channel…

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Comments
  1. fma7 says:

    scripure is somewhat meaningless after the recent church scandals in Canada: Religous leaders must
    stay away from our children. Multi-generational epidemics of sanctioned and church protected pedophilia proves religion and children should not mix

    Stay out of our bedrooms. Work on correcting your own dysfunctional sexual urges

  2. honjii says:

    Now these two, Comfort and Cameron, are pretty infamous for their complete lack of scientific knowledge and use of strawmen and pseudo-science. Perhaps their most idiotic argument was that ‘the banana was the atheist’s nightmare‘ which was was immediately ridiculed and proven to be a moronic statement at best. The argument was part of their Way of the Master evangelical TV program which has also been proven to be so full of mistakes and general idiocy that it’s amazing anyone believes any of it at all – it’s remarkably stupid even by fundamentalist standards.

    Perhaps we’ve found the missing link/s.

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